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Welcome to the launch party - This is my first post!
Dear Dora,
I have been meeting an increasing number of women who do not like oral sex. But specifically, *receiving* oral sex. Uh - WHAT?! I know it is nothing personal, because I usually hear about this before the situation even arises. Also, I know it really has nothing to do with my technique – I’ve gotten enough feedback to *know* this. Personally, I am a guy who really *loves* giving oral sex. It is possibly one of my favorite things to do. So this whole phenomenon is totally killing me here. But anyway. The question is many-fold:
1) Is there some sort of trend that I am missing here, causing women to increasingly not like receiving oral?
2) It is my opinion that a lot of guys don’t know what they are doing, thus causing women not to like it. How should a guy handle this situation?
3) If a guy really likes giving, and a woman does not like receiving ... how can he convince her to give it a shot? (Without being unnatural/unnerving about it).
Perplexed
Dear 'Plexed,
First of all, I’m right there with you – Uh – WHAT? Now onto your many-folds:
1) There’s no trend that I know of…if so I didn’t get the memo. There is an argument here that some of these women are probably self conscious or maybe sexually oppressed in some way. But another possibility could be just the opposite of the latter, that they simply achieve orgasms easier during penetration or with manual stimulation, likely both. They know what they like.
2) I think that people in general don’t really know what they are doing with oral sex…hopefully just at first. After all, we’re dealing with parts that we don’t have (presuming we are straight/bi/whatevs). The clichéd saying is true – communication is key. Women have a responsibility to themselves to let the guy know what she likes and when she’s about to cum. This is important because, as you’ve probably noticed, repetition in your movement typically leads up to the big O. If you change it up at the last second, the buildup to it can be lost. You’ve probably also noticed that every woman responds differently to oral stimulation. So how to handle it? Make sure she knows that she can be fully candid with you and ask for what she wants. Some women have probably experienced a bad reaction to that sort of thing in the past. Make sure she knows how open you are. It’s a gift, my man.
3) Due to the potentially sensitive nature of WHY she doesn’t like oral sex, you have to approach the subject carefully. I would only press the issue if this is a consistent sex partner who you know well and feel comfortable with. If you are successful and she goes for it, make sure she knows that you want her to guide you through it.
An afterthought: A surprising number of American women have never had an orgasm. At all. I could write a book about that. But the point is that they wouldn’t enjoy oral sex if that were the case because they wouldn’t really know how to make the big finish come into play – it totally takes practice. I’m sure you’ve heard before that women need to be in the right mindset. It’s very true. Because of that, in my opinion, women sort of make themselves cum while the partner supplies the ever important means. I think that if more women looked at it that way, coupled with communication to their partner about how they like it, then orgasm can be achieved much easier.
For the sake of your preferences, I hope that you ultimately end up with partners who really enjoy oral. Why deny yourself?
Dear Dora,
So here's a dumb question that my boss was asking me yesterday b/c one of the guys mentioned it...why would you need ky jelly if you're not a senior or have gone through menopause? I said perhaps the girl gets dry or perhaps they like to do anal?
Am I right?
Dear Right,
You are absolutely right. Anal sex - absolutely every single time - requires lube. Trying to do anal without it is bad news.
Every woman experiences vaginal dryness at some point. I’ve heard that the pill and other hormone altering medicines can cause chronic problems with this. I’m sure certain medical conditions, even some that aren’t related to our plumbing, can contribute as well. I have also found that the duration of the sex is a factor. I highly recommend to every woman that they not deny themselves lube during a long stretch of penetration. If you’ve ever experienced pain or soreness after having sex, it’s likely because the juices weren’t flowing as much as the job required. Also, if a woman’s partner is circumcised, it is especially important to have lube handy. The ridge of the circumcised penis’ head tends to draw moisture out of the vagina during the outward action. I also recommend experimenting with different types of lube – flavors, sensations, etc.
Dear Dora,
After many years of marriage to a wonderful man, I sometimes find myself bored and wanting to branch out. Not with another man, but perhaps with something rubber and vibrating. I've never been within twenty feet of a sex shop and don't even know if they HAVE them within two hours of my conservative home town. So, here's my question: I understand the internet can provide a private girl with access to many a wondrous thing, but where to start?
kthanx!
O Hai Kthanx,
It’s time to google, girl. I found a good article at spiceygear.com about how to choose the right sex toy for you…good luck in your search!! Here is the link: NOT SAFE FOR WORK!
Comments
woot!!! Helluva party! :P Congrats on your first post!!
1. Good advice re-oral. I, too, are like, wut, there are women who don't like it? But, in all fairness, as you said, not all men like giving it or know what they are doing. And most women feel "dirty" down there. But quite honestly, a lot of women need to experiment on themselves and see what "works" for them so they can tell their partner. Its not wrong to know your own body.....it should be a priority! And yes, its a sad fact that not all women have had an orgasm...but a lot of that has to do with comfort and knowing your own body. It took me several lovers to find one who knew what he was doing....and Oh.My. God.!!
2. Good advice re the lube. I think there is lot of outdated thinking regarding lube. Why wouldn't you want to ensure all is slippy, slidey? Besides, there are so many different kinds of fun, lube these days. People need to get past stigmas.
Great first post!! :)
Oh, in that last link. ;)
Good input Dee!
The vibrating motion tends to generate an extra amount of heat which can cause drying over time. Always keep extra lube handy, and go to a place that can educate you about it.
(in Seattle I recommend Toys in Babeland - its a female friendly environment with a very courteous and well-educated staff)
nicely done.
; ))
People really shouldn't be surprised that some women do not like, or are ambivalent about, receiving oral sex. There could be many reasons - physical, personal, emotional, mental, etc. Just as there are other sexual positions or acts that people don't care for, oral sex is not for everyone. It's just another option in a line of many when it comes to intimacy (think about it - you wouldn't think someone was nuts just because your favourite chocolate was dark but they preferred milk). I would hazard to say that this occurs more with women than with men, though. For another example - everyone assumes that all gay (male) couples have anal sex. This is not true - many don't care for it, but they find other ways of expressing their sexual and intimate sides.
Also, even when they do enjoy receiving it, not all women are going to climax during oral sex. Some women don't climax very easily, others very easily. Some can only do it through manual stimulation - using just a tongue and lips might not be enough pressure for a particular woman. There are women who don't always climax through intercourse, either. And, believe it or not, there are women out there who don't necessarily find that an orgasm is the be all and end all of sex. If it happens, it happens, but for the most part, the act itself is enough for them. This latter subject has actually been written about a few times in recent years, although naturally I couldn't find the links today when I wanted to include them here.
In the end, any of these decisions/preferences are intensely personal and just need to be talked about between partners so they can decide what works best for them. Communication is always the key.
Just as there are other sexual positions or acts that people don't care for, oral sex is not for everyone.
True, oral sex is only one sexual preference to chose from which is why I think that these women he's meeting most likely just know what they like.
There are women who don't always climax through intercourse, either.
A majority of (specifically, because it's what I know) American women do not climax during penetration, oral and manual are certainly the most common ways in this culture, which is probably why the lack of preference on that is surprising to some. A lot of it is straight-up biology, it's the way our nerves are wired down there, the clitoris is the mother ship of the orgasm, even when orgasms happen vaginally, the nerves are all connected.
And, believe it or not, there are women out there who don't necessarily find that an orgasm is the be all and end all of sex. If it happens, it happens, but for the most part, the act itself is enough for them. This latter subject has actually been written about a few times in recent years, although naturally I couldn't find the links today when I wanted to include them here.
Yes, plenty of women do not make orgasming a huge priority in their sex lives, dare I say a majority of us can relate to that. I do believe that there is a reason for that in our culture, because it's certainly not the case all over the world, that's for another post. For the most part, cultural teachings on sex can influence preferences (in my opinion, a female being dedicated to achieving orgasms is a preference, and one that isn't fully encouraged here), but overall, it's simply a fact that everyone embraces their sexuality on different levels with a variety of sexual responses.
Great input all of you! Yay!
I guess it's like anal sex. Some people go for it, others don't To add to what Arbed said I think the expression "sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't" applies. I have spells where certain things just don't do it for me. Sometimes my own personal confidence will dictate what I like and what I don't. The other thing is hygiene. So many people Purel their hands 30 times a day and they start becoming phobic of intimate contact that includes membranes, smells, tastes. It's scary to some people to have that type of contact. That is one of the best parts of being committed, monogamous, and trusting of your partner. I like all the things that make sex great. Otherwise it just becomes clinical to me. But stuff kills you now. Some people just won't take that chance or that leap of faith. I don't blame them given the fact that you have to take a partner's word for their "clean bill of health" unless you request papers.
Lube is my friend. I don't like KY but prefer Elbow Grease (perhaps alien to hetero people) It is used for what the name implies but works better for anal than KY.
As far as stimulation tools go I have been fortunate enough to have one that sleeps next to me every night and cooks dinner for me also. I am funny about clerks at sex shops judging me,lol. The truth is that most things I might consider purchasing would be tame compared to what the five people in front of me in the line may have just purchased. We are just societally conditioned to believe that self stimulation is somehow wrong yet everyone does it. Most of us are pretty good at it actually. On-line shops are a good way to stay away from the leering eyes of others but you don't get a test drive. That's not to say that we stuff ourselves with rubber goods at the store. Just tactile purchasing gives you a much better idea of what the outcome will be. You go into a store like that with a sense of humor and pick a few things up. Your friends can go with you and it can be a fun outing for those who get a kick out of nervous tension. I do. Once you pick something up you will be amazed at what your friends bring to the counter. It also opens up dialogue and conversation that is more open and grown up. Many times you will find it easier to discuss situations with a friend that you have broken the taboo with.
A lot of places on ebay sell sex toys and you can -not only keep the purchase private (item won't show in feedback) but the items are shipped discreetly. (plain packaging) I wouldn't dare go into a sex shop for anything. With MY luck the owner would be the head of the PTA or something.
I wouldn't dare go into a sex shop for anything. With MY luck the owner would be the head of the PTA or something.
Why would that worry you? If the head of the PTA OWNS a sex shop, I don't think you would be outed because if its not common knowledge that they do, I think they would be more worried about being seen than you! LOL! :) (and if they are head of the PTA, I seriously doubt that anyone else knows they own a sex shop because no group of parents, no matter how liberal, will elect the owner of sex shop to run the PTA)
The reality is that more and more sex shops are not the stereotypical sleazy joint anymore. (there are still those around) There are more and more shops that are pleasant and warm and not scary...and are run by fun, knowledgable, normal people. People really need to let go of the stigmas and stereotyping....becomes the times they are a changing!
I have a paranoia about sex shops ever since my then boyfriend (10 yrs my senior) came prancing out of the store (this was way 23 years ago!) waving a vibrator in the air exclaimed "Look, Honey! I got it!!!" as I slouched down in the front seat. No thanks!! Haha!
Ye-ouch! I would have run him down with the car for that! LOL! :)
As much as that was embarrassing...it was also 23 years ago...and the doings of someone from the past. So much has changed since then. Do you want your fears to control you for one incident with one person?
If you want to face your fears then research the shops in your area (the internet is great for this)...or within driving distance (if you don't want one too close!) and go by yourself or with a trusted friend. I think you will be pleasantly surprised....with the shops and yourself. Its just a thought........you don't have to......internet shopping does allow for discreet shopping as you have mentioned. But Dancing Bear also made an excellent point that in person shopping adds so much more to the experience and it helps in persuing the merchandise and making selections.
I know, right? Run his butt over.
No fears, was just embarrassing as hell. Spesh back then! :(
Mrs. K might be interested in the Founding Mother of Women-Positive Accessory Shops, Good Vibrations. I am told by my female friends of all persuasions that they are the most knowledgable and discreet and cheerful and clean, well-lighted and such-like. Plus they use some totally generic name when they charge your card. Good Vibrations. It says they've been in business for 30 years which explains why I heard about them as a kid even in a repressed kinda town. Their Mission Statement: "Good Vibrations is the original San Francisco-based retailer women have trusted for nearly three decades to provide a comfortable, safe environment for finding sex-positive products and educational materials to enhance their sex life. We invite you to read more about who we are, what we do and how we do it."
I wouldn't go with anyone off eBay for this -- no matter what ratings they have, well, you just don't know where it's been or who they are! I'm cool with buying salt shakers and video games off there, but the thought of something that personal.... yeeeeesh. ;) That would be worse than boyfriends waving and yelling.
And thanks for your input on Good Vibrations, ladies! It's a goodie!
In response to Kthanx....questions on toys.